There is a controversial discussion taking place on social media right now. I don’t know where it actually started, but Allie Beth Stuckey, a podcast commentator for Blaze Media, weighed in and that is when I became aware of it. It’s actually quite astounding as to what people believe on this subject.
Now I follow Allie, but I was unaware of exactly what her religious beliefs are, other than that she is a Christian. I don’t follow her that closely, only seeing a quote of hers from time to time. Come to find out, she is a Calvinist, so her beliefs are going to be a bit different than mine.
But the question posed was: “Do the Jews, Muslims and Christians worship the same God?” Now the obvious answer is No, they do not. Certainly, Muslims do not serve the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Islam is a monotheistic religion that traces its lineage to Abraham via Hagar and her son Ishmael. And we can leave any further connection right there. But this religion didn’t even begin until the 7th Century in 610 AD. And their person that would be (in their mind), equal to our Third Person of the Trinity, is most certainly not Jesus. So that makes the Triune God not at all the same. Jesus was there from the beginning. Plus, Muslims don’t even read the Bible, they follow the Quran, so we can rule them out from the get-go...It was actually shocking to me that some Christians did not have that understanding, and weren’t able to differentiate that fact. No way, do Muslims worship our God. They don’t even want to think they do. But for the Jewish faith, it is an entirely different story.
Why does it matter? For lots of reasons. But for me, besides not being Scriptural and God’s intentional teaching, to believe the Jew doesn’t worship our God is a complete departure from our nation’s Judeo/Christian values and norms. Even among Calvinists! And that matters. It is sad to see our nation rebuke the value system upon which our nation was founded.
Moreover, to believe otherwise, is a dangerous teaching that will cause Christians to abort the belief that we are to bless Israel and stand by her side.
It matters because these are the voices, that will one day cause our nation and others to leave behind our support for Israel. “On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations.” (Zechariah 14:3) We are in fact, becoming a part of the world order that fights against her. I don’t want our nation to be a part of that. Genesis 12:3 states, “I will bless those that bless you, and curse those that curse you.” We certainly don’t need more reason for a curse like that from God. We should never allow Israel to be defined as just another nation that doesn't follow the one true God, which is what will happen from those without true understanding of this.
We need to stand by our Judeo/Christians principles for the sake of our nation, for the sake of the Jew, but more importantly for the sake of the Gospel. Jesus would not have been in the temple doing His Father's business if He was not One and the Same. It is vitally important to remember Jesus was a Jew who followed Jewish law. Throughout His life, Jesus quoted Scripture from the Bible which was in fact preserved for us by JEWS!
The discussion went off the rails pretty quickly, so I didn’t hang around long. No sense in arguing as Scripture teaches us. But we are to be prepared to give an answer for the reason for our Hope. So….
Covenant Siblings
As I said, it is a completely different story for the Christian and the Jew, as opposed to what I explained about the Muslim.
The Jews are the Covenant people with whom God gave the promise to Abraham. The Jews are God’s chosen and He is not done with them. Without the Jew and Israel, we would not be in Christ today. There is no Christianity without the Jews. We are the ones who are grafted in to that covenant! Romans 11:17 informs the church – we Christians – that we were grafted in as a wild branch into the Olive Tree of Israel. We are the ones grafted in, not the other way around. Grafted in where? With the Jews! The Jews are, in fact, actually the ones that preserved the Holy Scriptures for us. And the Jews are from whom our Savior came. We owe them our respect and hope...and our witness. They were also the first to share the Gospel message.
One commentator put it this way and I love it: “Christianity and Judaism are covenant siblings with Heavenly Father through Isaac (Abraham and his wife Sarah).”
Yes. “Covenant Siblings”. Perfectly explained.
He further explains that there is “a good reason why Christians have such a natural, innate affinity for Jews and why Muslims hate both. The fact is, the Christian religion spawned from Judaism, through the Highest Jew Jesus Christ Himself.”
Therefore, I believe yes, though it is a different story for Muslims; Christians and Jews, in fact, do worship the same God and here’s why.
God is referred to as the “God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob” throughout Old and New Testament. ~Genesis 50:24; Exodus 3:15; Acts 7:32
Jesus was a Jew from the Tribe of Judah, the line of David and He kept all of the Jewish law. Matthew 1:1-16
God is the Triune God From beginning to end of creation. God has no beginning and end. ~1 John 5:7 ~Revelation 1:8; Revelation 22:13
God is the Creator of all and in John 1, Jesus also says He is the Creator. Genesis 1:1; Colossians 1:16; John 1;1
He is Yahweh. Jehovah. The Great I Am. ~ Exodus 3:14; ~Isaiah 48:12; John 8:58
God is the same yesterday, today and forever. ~Hebrews 13:8
No one comes to the Father but by me. ~John 14:6
God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob
Abraham and his offspring were given the Promised Land. God repeated this covenant to three generations. He first made it to Abraham in Genesis 12: 1-3; with Isaac in Genesis 21:12; and again with Jacob in Genesis 28:14-15.1 We call this the Abrahamic Covenant. The fact that the Bible refers to this so many times is a reminder that these are God’s Chosen ones, by covenant. To claim the Jews don’t worship our God denies the fact that the Jews are God's covenant people...God's covenants are forever. How sad to believe otherwise; or to believe that what He promised to the Jews, He later transferred to the Christians. That would only demonstrate that He doesn't keep His promises.
Throughout the Old and New Testament, God is referred to as the “God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob”. That tells us He is the God throughout the generations. This name for God emphasized the covenant that God made with Israel as God’s Chosen People.
The important lineage is from Abraham and his wife, Sarah, through their son Isaac. This is through whom God gave the Abrahamic Covenant. This is also the line through whom Jesus comes.
Scripture is very precise and complete in listing the lineage throughout the Bible in order to prove and prophesy that this is the line from whom the Messiah – Jesus – would come. It is intentionally and eternally important. And it is as important to the Jew as it is to the Christian to know and understand this lineage. That listed lineage is something that is very important so that we know Jesus is a Jew, fulfilling prophesy. And also, it is important the Jews know this as they are awaiting a Jewish Messiah. Jesus is of the line of David. The Messianic line the Jews expect their Messiah to be.
Move forward to the New Testament and in Acts 3:13, Peter also makes the point to refer to the "God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers". He specifically does this in order to make a point with the Jewish people. Peter purposely linked the miracle Jesus had just finished to the one and only God of their fathers. He did that so they would understand Jesus is one and the same. He is the Messiah, for whom they have been waiting. By pointing out this direct link, many came to Jesus that day.2 Their Messiah is Jesus whether they have full understanding or not. By saying Christians and Jews worship different Gods, we take away that connection. Jesus is the God of their fathers, and we are taking away a valuable witnessing tool, by denying their faith. They are still waiting for a Jewish Messiah and they will one day find One.
The reason the Jews have not yet recognized Jesus as their Messiah is very well explained to us in Romans 11. This was God’s plan to bring the Gentile unto Him. Salvation comes first to the Jew, and then to the Gentile - Romans 1:16 Salvation is come to the Gentiles – Romans 11:11-15. Because of the Jew’s transgression, (denial of Jesus) salvation has come to the rest of us! We all know what an effective stimulate jealousy can be.
“I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them. For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead?” ~Romans 11:11-15
The Gentiles have favor in the church age because of their belief, but when God is finished with the Gentiles, He will reinstate Israel who was set aside because of their unbelief. Blindness has happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. In finality, God will graft Israel in once again. In other words, when the last of the Gentiles have been saved, God will set his sights on Israel one more time. God cannot do otherwise because of His promise to the fathers. God has set Israel aside temporarily for the sake of the Gentiles, but He has not forgotten, nor changed His promises. They are still His chosen. That requires an understanding of the one true God who is the same yesterday, today and forever.
In the Beginning
The Jews inability to recognize Jesus as the Messiah, doesn’t change who God is. The Object (for lack of better word) does not change. He is the God of the universe. The Great I Am. The one and only true God. He was the Triune God in the beginning, He was the Triune God when Jesus came to earth and died for our sins; and he is the Triune God, now and forever. The Jews’ misunderstanding of who their Messiah is, doesn't negate who God is. Neither can we negate the Old Testament, which we are in effect doing by saying the Jews do not worship the same God. It is the God of the Old Testament that the Jews give their worship.
A poor attempt at a visual.
I'm not saying the Jews are saved. We all know that Jesus is the only way to salvation. But to say that He isn't the same God, the God of all creation, (Genesis 1:1) the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob is to negate the Old Testament, as well as John 1:1.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Clearly this verse demonstrates they are one and the same.
I want to say too, that there are many Jews who have been saved throughout time. Paul, the "sinner in Chief" was the most well known Jew that came to know Jesus. Today those who have come to understand who Jesus is are called "Messianic Jews", otherwise known as "completed Jews". They do not give up their Jewishness. Rather now, they are made complete because they have come to understand Jesus is the Messiah they have been awaiting. They adhere to the tenants of the Christian faith regarding salvation through Yeshua. They are able to keep many of their Jewish traditions. That is a beautiful thought. Further, not all Jews who come to faith in Jesus are considered "Messianic Jews". There are some that come to Christ and choose to leave the Jewish traditions behind and are simply known as a Jewish Christian.
The God of the Living!
Jesus made clear that “He didn't come to destroy the law but to fulfill it.” The identifying name: "I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob," is repeated not only in the Old Testament, but the New!
I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. ~Matthew 22:32
Matthew is using this verse to tell the Sadducees (and us) that He is the God of the living and not the dead! Using present tense, He is purposefully ensuring we know that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are all still very much alive, in the afterlife...Heaven. If this is fact, then the Jews still worship the same God now, as they did then. He is not the God of the dead, but of the living....meaning Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, as he explains in these verses.3 The Great I Am. “I Am their God.”
Zeal for God
Romans 10:1-4 is key to understanding that the God the Jews worship is, in fact, the God that we as Christians worship.
“Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believeth.” ~Romans 10:1-4 KJV
In these verses, Paul tells us God wants Israel to be saved...that they are not yet, but that their salvation is His desire. A zeal for God denotes passion. They LOVE God! The same God. They simply are trying to work out their righteousness. Who would do that - going to such great lengths to satisfy the law, if they didn’t love God? He is the Living God repeatedly called in Scripture the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the same One their forefathers served. None of that is accidental.
The Jews at this time simply lack the understanding and knowledge of the Triune God. And they are unaware the Messiah they await, has already come. They do not understand His righteousness has been imparted to us and therefore the salvation that has been given through the Son. They are still trying to make their way into Heaven by works – working out their own righteousness, rather than that which has been imparted to us by Jesus’s death on the cross.
Romans 3: 10-31 is so apropos here. I won’t write out the text, but please read it. These are the verses that tell us, “No one is righteous, no not one.” These verses are in part what is known as “the Roman Road to Salvation”. The verses are also a defense of the law. And for this discussion, I point out verses 29 -31:
“Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.”
Bold emphasis mine. In this question, Paul is asking “is he the God of the Jews only?” It is basically a statement explained through a question. We know he is explaining to us that God is the God of the Jews...even now. We don’t make void the law by our New Covenant faith. Jesus established the law. It is the law the Jewish people so ardently try to follow, made by the God of Creation. The same God we worship. Christ is the End of that law. The law always pointed to Jesus. The Jew simply does not know they cannot possibly keep that law in perfection.
J. C. Ryle theologian from the 1800’s, has much to say about all of this in his many writings. His biography is entitled “That Man of Granite with the Heart of a Child.” That should tell us everything. I have not read it yet, but I have read a few of his other books and I find him sound in doctrine and faith. Now today, Ryle is thought to be a Calvinist, so I don’t mean for any statement I have made about Calvinists to sound like I am beating up on them. But I do believe, as in most things today, they have changed on some doctrine and are not entirely the same as they once were. Only the Bible remains the same. I truly don’t know if Ryle identified as a Calvinist. I never thought so, until I read somewhere, that he is believed to have been a Calvinist. At least by some people’s definition.
In his book, “Are You Ready for the End of Time?”, he discusses Israel. In chapter 7, And So All Israel Shall Be Saved”, he says this:
“Israel, then, we find, for nearly 1500 years was more favoured and privileged by God than any nation in the world. David might well say, 'What one nation in the earth is like Thy people Israel, whom God went to redeem for a people to himself?’ (2 Samuel 7:23). It was the only nation in the earth to which God was pleased to reveal Himself. 'To them were committed to oracles of God' ( Romans 3:2). While all other nations were suffered to walk in their own ways, and to live in moral and spiritual darkness, the Jews alone enjoyed an immense amount of light and knowledge. The humblest priest in Solomon's Temple was a far better theologian than Homer; Daniel, and Ezra, and Nehemiah knew more about God than Socrates, and Plato, and Pythagoras and Cicero put together."
How cool is that! I just love it! But then we have the audacity and hubris to claim the Jewish people don't worship the same God that we worship?? How prideful and haughty that must appear to our Father. The Jews were God’s Chosen People and they were a part of His plan to bring the Gentile into His Kingdom.
Remember, this was the 1800s, so not to cause conflict with the choice of words "Palestine", this is what Ryle said further:
"The Jews were brought out of Egypt by miraculous interposition, planted in Palestine, one of the choicest corners of the earth, and fenced off and separated from other nations by peculiar customs and ceremonies. They were supplied with a moral law from heaven so perfect, that even to this day nothing can be added to it or taken from it. They were taught to worship God with ceremonial rights and ordinances, which, however burdensome they may seem to us, were admirably adapted to human nature at that early stage of man's history, and calculated to train them for a higher dispensation. [So if a Calvinist, Ryle certainly wasn't a Dominionist* who believed in Replacement Theology**.] They were constantly warned and instructed by prophets, and protected and defended by miracles. In short, if mercies and kindnesses alone could make people good, no nation on Earth should have been so good as Israel. While Egypt, and Babylon, and Greece worshipped the works of their own hands, the Jew alone was a worshiper of the one true God."4
That demonstrates true worship of the same God that we worship. Finally, they were allowed to receive the consequences of their own sins, after repeatedly rejecting God's prophets and eventually Jesus. And persecution they have received and will receive further in that dreadful day.
Ryle says, "Never was a people so peculiarly favored and so peculiarly punished."
And yet at the same time, they fulfill every prophecy written about them in the Old Testament. And they hold every characterization now that they held then. The land, the faith, the physical characteristics, the language, the titles; all of it. Persecuted and violently treated, they have remained the same through it all. Why would we believe their faith in the same God, then as now, would change, when nothing else about them has? It wouldn’t. Why would God allow any of this for someone who was not a worshiper of him? They are a distinct and separate people and as Ryle says, they can no more mix with the Gentiles, then can oil mix with water. Never have they been absorbed or assimilated, though they were driven from their homeland. They have remained the Jew. It is all for God's purposes; and all of this comes from the God they worship. It is our Triune God Who is the same now as He was in the beginning.
Ryle tells us we find the answer to the entirety of God’s plan in the Bible, which of course we do.
"They are a people reserved and kept separate by God for a grand and special purpose. That purpose is to make them a means of exhibiting to the world in the latter days God's hatred of sin and unbelief, and God's almighty power and almighty compassion. They are kept separate that they may finally be saved, converted and restored to their own land. They are reserved and preserved, in order that God may show in them, as on a platform, to angels and men, how greatly He hates sin, and yet how greatly He can forgive, and how greatly He can convert. Never will that be realized as it will in that day when ‘All Israel shall be saved’.5
This new opinion of Israel, and her people, that we are seeing today is the same mindset that is becoming so common place among Christians which causes many to believe our nation is not (or no longer) a “Christian nation”. Of course we are! Even though we're not all Christian, we were founded on the Holy Bible and Judeo/Christian principles. That alone makes us a Christian nation. Just as Israel is a Jewish nation. A comparison can be made in the same way the Jews worship our God, even though they don't know Jesus. No. Again. They are not saved. But soon...
"I read that when the heart of Israel shall turn to the lord, the veil should be taken away (2nd Corinthians 3:16)."
It's not that they don't worship our God. They have simply not yet been brought to completion through Jesus Christ. But they will be when the fulness of the Gentile has come in, this veil will be removed.
At the end of Chapter 7, Ryle then goes into everything that we owe to the Jew and his words are moving and beautiful; a truth we all need to understand. I won’t include them here, though I am tempted to do just that, because they truly move the heart. But this is already getting so long. I do recommend the book. It is an easy and accurate read for which he is so well known.
I will just close in finality with this suggestion from those final pages as he answers the question of how we can and should repay the Jew:
"On the one hand, we may pay our debt directly, by using every reasonable effort to bring the Gospel to bear on the minds of our Jewish brethren in every part of the globe. No doubt they need to be approached with peculiar wisdom, delicacy, and care. They are not to be treated as heathen but as men who already hold half the truth, who believe the Old Testament like ourselves, although they do not see and receive its full meaning. But all experience proves that there is everything to encourage those who endeavor to lead Israel to the true messiah, the Christ of God with love and patience." 6 (Bold emphasis, mine.)
We definitely shouldn’t treat them with such disdain, that we no longer even believe they worship the same God, that we do, and which has been a Christian standard for generations. J.C. Ryle obviously loved the Jews; and his words are a fantastic example to us.
Salvation to the Jews
I believe the misconception that the Jews worship a different God comes out of a result of a fast-growing “Replacement Theology”; which is also often tied to Calvinism, though not all Calvinists belief this. The church has NOT replaced Israel! “Replacement Theology” holds an allegorical view of Scripture rather than literal. This is why people who follow it, can come to the wrong conclusion about the verses concerning God’s promises to Israel. It also leads them to the wrong conclusion of who our God is and how he has been worshipped throughout the ages.
The Jews are God's Chosen People who will one day come to salvation through Jesus, because God keeps His promises. Jews have to know the things they have always believed are true, in order to come to completion through Jesus. If the church has replaced Israel, that can never happen. They are looking for a Jewish Messiah as told by the prophets.
Because of the Trinity, and because Scripture teaches that God is the same yesterday, today and forever, we can know He is the same God for all of time. The God that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob worshipped, is still the Triune God from Israel’s very beginning; and He is still the Triune God that died and bled for our sins; and He is the Triune God that will return to us as He promised.
No, Jews are not yet saved. Because yes, it is true as John 14: 6 tells us, that “No man comes to the father but by me.” Jews do not worship in full understanding, and hence are not saved. It is not complicated. But it is rather a matter of God not accepting their worship, because they don't yet recognize Jesus. It isn't that they are worshiping a false god, like the Muslims, or other cults; it's that they are worshiping the one true God falsely. And God does not accept that. But He is very much the same, one, true God.
The Bible takes great pains to list lineage, expressly so we know we worship the same God. That this is true, will be important to the Jews' salvation, when the time has come. The Jews will one day understand. It is important that they know that the God they served all along, has come in the flesh as their Messiah. He came as a lowly servant who died for us all, in the way of Jesus, the Christ.
I want to share a thought someone posted to one of the boards. I’m sorry I didn’t get his name and I don’t really remember which thread it was posted. But it is so accurate and completely the way I think about this discussion. It is this:
“One last thought: We may very well be thinking about this question incorrectly. Instead of asking, “Do Jewish people worship the same God as Christians?”; we might want to turn that question around and acknowledge that Christians worship the God of Israel. When Christians worship the God of the Bible, they are worshiping the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Christians worship the Holy One of Israel, as Isaiah called Him (for example, Isa. 12:6, one of 29 times this title is used in Isaiah). Instead of portraying Jewish people as worshiping a different false god, Christians should acknowledge that their faith is in the God revealed in the Hebrew Bible, the God of Israel. And if Christians truly appreciated that, it might lead to greater respect for the Jewish people and also a deeper determination to present the Good News to our Jewish friends. Realizing that Gentile Christians are standing on the Rock of Israel (2 Sam. 23:3; Isa. 30:29), they will have greater resolve to proclaim lovingly that the Messiah of Israel has come and His name is Yeshua, the son of David, the son of Abraham (Matt. 1:1).”
I believe we owe them that.
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*Dominionist - Unlike dispensationalism's message of social deterioration that precedes Christ's return, Christian dominionism is postmillennial rather than premillennial. It argues that Christians can and must reform society so that it becomes progressively better. Only then will Christ return.
**Replacement Theology - Replacement theology, also known as supersessionism or fulfillment theology, is a Christian doctrine that states that the Christian Church has replaced the Jewish people.
1 https://www.gotquestions.org/God-of-Abraham-Isaac-Jacob.html
2 Ibid
3 https://www.gotquestions.org/God-of-Abraham-Isaac-Jacob.html
4 Are You Ready for the End of Time? J. C. Ryle © 1863
5 Ibid.
6 Are You Ready for the End of Time? J. C. Ryle © 1863