Below I have posted Episode 91 of Tucker Carlson's podcast. It aired almost a year ago. It seems he decided it was time to address the issue of Christians dying around the world. So he interviewed a “Palestinian” pastor, by the name of Reverend Munther Isaac. Isaac is the current director and I believe the founder of “Christ at the Checkpoint”. His blog states,
“He speaks locally and internationally on issues related to the theology of the land, Palestinian Christians, and Palestinian theology.”
“Palestinian theology” - whatever that is... Let's find out.
The thing is, other than just a snippet in the opening statement, they didn’t talk much about Christians dying anywhere. Oh, except as they dig in further, they do talk about those dying at the hands of Israel. The truth is this entire interview is filled with all kinds of error and/or deceit. Yes, I said it. It is a false narrative, based on a phony premise, and much of that is easy to prove.
What they are saying in this interview are the exact same talking points as that of Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and AOC; and as well all the college students protesting Israel across our nation. You know. "Israel is committing genocide"...with no mention of Hamas...only innocent “Palestinians”. Truthfully, I see no difference in these comments than the ones we have been listening to from radical Islamist Ilhan Omar. Yes, I said it. She’s radical.
Something that has always been clear for those that watch Tucker is the fact that Tucker hates war. Well guess what, Tucker; we all hate war! But I think Tucker hates it to the point he sees no point to it whatsoever. Ever! I have said it before, and I will say it again, I don’t believe Tucker Carlson would even fight for his mother. Yes, I said it.
Further, Tucker absolutely does not want one penny of US aid going to any other nation, and for Tucker, that seems to especially apply to Israel. Tucker is constantly preaching against any aid or monetary support from going to any foreign nation. I haven't heard him say much about Iran, but he especially seems to have a problem with two nations: Israel and Ukraine. I feel like maybe he would consider giving aid to Russia.
Ok, I am letting my anger show, now, but dang!!! His mindset is soooo twisted. And I almost wish I hadn’t even listened to this video! But the truth is, I felt a responsibility to listen, because I had seen so many snippets and so much commentary on it through social media. Biased and inaccurate statements have been making the rounds on these platforms ever since the interview aired. It infuriated me. So I finally watched the full podcast and now I am even more incensed! And now that I have heard what I have heard, I cannot remain silent.
For
starters, though Tucker claims to be a Christian, I don’t really
know if he actually is. I am not sure if he has full understanding;
or maybe he has only a socially defined understanding of what it
means to be a Christian. I honestly don’t believe Tucker is saved.
There. I said it. “By their fruits you will know them.”
And “Our spirit bears witness with their spirit to know they are
the sons of God.” I’m just not seeing it. I don’t care
what he says...but I also know I am not to judge. I am willing to let
God sort this one out. However, I am not going to be silent, when I
see him continually sharing and supporting lies. His distortions have
been going on for a while now and he is getting more and more bold. I
have written about much of it; here and on Social Media. I think I am
losing friends over it.
But
I believe it needs to be said.
If anything, Tucker is leaning heavily on “Replacement Theology”. And yes one can be a Christian and still hold to that doctrine. But I don’t think that is the case for Tucker. I think he just likes the doctrine, because it fits his political predilection. He has held other interviews with people that hold a view of "Replacement Theology" or "Dominionism". Pastor Doug Wilson from Moscow, Idaho, is one. And though not a religious figure, (I think she thinks she is) Candace Owens, is another.
Throughout this interview, both Tucker and the “Palestinian pastor” mock our Christian theology and instead promote Palestinian and liberal left talking points. I guess that's the "Palestinian Theology" Reverend Isaac was referring to on his blog. Well guess what, you two, the truth is, God keeps His promises. He always has and He always will. He made a promise to Israel and He is keeping that Covenant. Who wants to serve a god that doesn’t keep His promises. I surely don’t. Replacement Theology requires an allegorical view of Scripture, while most Christians adhere to a literal interpretation.
Tucker repeatedly tries to make a distinction about “modern, secular Israel,” as opposed to the Israel of the Bible. Well I find it debatable, that they declare modern Israel, "secular", because Israel continually declare their belief in Zionism and that they are the one and only Jewish state in the entire world! That isn’t secularism. They are a Jewish state in the same way we are a Christian nation. People want to say that we are not. But this is just another reason why it is important we keep that title. For both nations, it is something very important to our foundations. Do you think Iran would ever let someone say they are not a Nation of Islam?
Israel's political, or even their moral status, for that matter, has no bearing whatsoever on what we are to continue to do as instructed in Scripture. And it certainly has no bearing on what God will do! They are God’s chosen people, no argument! Most assuredly, that fact is not one that is based on Israel’s righteousness, exactly as nothing is based on our own righteousness. The Bible is clear about that. And for our part, we are to bless Israel. Case closed. Tucker is advocating Replacement Theology, whether he is aware of that fact or not. I think the pastor most certainly is aware of it and this is what he is preaching, while mocking the beliefs of the rest of us. He goes into quite a bit of detail of his own making about that. Being well-grounded in your Biblical knowledge, please listen carefully to his claims.
Ok, there’s that; let’s get down to it.
This pastor is a pastor from an “evangelical,” “Lutheran” church in Bethlehem. That doesn’t really mean a thing. I find it extremely ironic that Carlson was willing to lam-blast the liberal Episcopalian pastor from The National Cathedral in DC, (Reverend Budde) but yet he interviews this liberal pastor with most likely many of the same views. While accusing Budde and the entire Episcopalian church of not being Christian (of which I agree) He goes through the entire interview with Rev. Munther without so much of a mention that even one thing could be inaccurate in his beliefs.
There are so many falsehoods, inaccuracies and twisting of terms in this interview, that I don’t think I can possibly cover it all. Still I feel the need to try. Or at least get to the most important and truly dangerous issues, that in my heart I cannot leave left uncorrected.
For starters, let me just point out a few red flags.
The pastor leaves out a hard fact about Bethlehem. The truth is, Bethlehem is controlled by the Palestinian Authority. The PA are classified as terrorists. There are less than 12% of the Palestinians there that are Christian. I think Tucker knows that, but he thinks we don't! That's deception.
This pastor is not using “Christian” language; he is using “Palestinian” language by calling Judea and Samaria the “West Bank”. The truth is, it’s name is Judea and Samaria! And it should be called that for a reason. And that is to demonstrate the connection to the Jewish people and the land of Israel! The Jewish people have always had that connection since God made the Abrahamic Covenant. Munther Isaac mocks that belief.
Next Munther calls Israel an “apartheid state”. That’s not only the narrative of the Palestinians, but it is also the narrative of the left in both Israel and the United States; as well as the talking points of people who hate Israel. The pastor tries to give that narrative credence by pointing out that “human rights organizations” call it an "apartheid state". Grrrrr! The language of liberal organizations and haters of Israel do not make something so.
The pastor claims that the “Palestinians” have been there for 100’s of years! That is simply not true. Arabs have been, but the “Palestinians” are a creation of Yasser Arafat in the early 1960’s. "Palestinians" have no history there; no national anthem, no leaders prior to Arafat, no constitution, or prior public documents, no money, and certainly no claim to the land. They were Jordanians and Egyptians. In fact, Arafat was born in Egypt.
Another thing that I find the newly remade Tucker Carlson continually doing, is to subtly cast blame on the US. I have noticed this to be a trend with him, every since the Jimmy Dore interview on his Fox show in early 2023. Dore just regurgitated the rhetoric of the 1960’s while Tucker sat and nodded his head in agreement. Nodding his head in agreement while he lets his guests say the controversial is becoming all too common for Tucker Carlson. When the criticism comes, which it always does, Tucker backtracks on the comments made, saying something like “I am simply offering free speech.” (paraphrase). Or, as he did after other controversial videos about Israel, responding in mock disdain and shock of the criticism, “But I love Israel.” Yeah, right. But the damage is already done. The influence that he knows he is so capable of, entirely complete.
In this interview, TC also specifically casts blame on the “religious right” in Congress, for supporting Israel and doing harm to fellow “Palestinian Christians”. Hey Tucker!! What about Hamas??? I don’t think I have ever even heard you use the term, let alone cast any shade their way!
Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and they are far from an apartheid state - regardless of what people like our old President, Jimmy Carter say! Israel allows Arabs to work, live and serve in their government. How can that be apartheid? The Jewish people are the ones that have a historical connection and a God-given right to the land. This fact is true, regardless of what modern day rhetoric likes to claim and push on the rest of us!
Israel medically treats Arabs and even Gazans in their hospitals! In fact, one of the men captured on October 7th and held captive was an elderly gentlemen, that spent his last days going to the border of Gaza and picking up sick Gazans and transporting them to hospitals in Israel. His name was Oded Lifschitz and ironically he was a known “peace activist”. After the ill were treated, (in Israeli hospitals) he would help transport them back to Gaza. Hamas didn’t care about that! They killed him anyway! In fact, it has been proven it wasn’t even Hamas that kidnapped him. It was Palestinian Gazans! You know! The ones thought to be so innocent!!! Any mention of that, Tucker?
So let’s look at the facts! There are 2 million Palestinians in Gaza of which 80% support Hamas. Think about that! 80% of Palestinians in Gaza support Hamas and actually voted them into power! They are NOT innocent! So let’s get away from the claim that they are! Yes, I said it! Both Gaza and Bethlehem are under a majority of something other than Israeli rule; i.e. Hamas and the Palestinian Authority, respectfully. Israel allows Christians and Muslims to live freely. Gaza and Bethlehem do not! And please. Let's not forget they are both backed by Iran.
Tucker and this pastor are simply regurgitating the same narrative as the left. They are demonizing Israel and trying to make the "Palestinians" look innocent. Has Tucker ever done a show regarding the fact that Hamas uses fellow "Palestinian" women and children as human shields? Of course not! I don’t think he has ever even mentioned it. And in fact, in this video, they are still repeating the lie that Israel bombed a Christian church in Gaza. That has already been proven incorrect! It was propaganda by Hamas! Hamas were, in fact, the ones that destroyed that church...they claim accidently by a "misfired" missile. (Charlie Kirk also helped disseminate that lie. But I think he corrected it...at least, slightly.) You will be hard-pressed to find the truth about that tragedy today. The left controls media.
The pastor and Tucker both use the same lies from Hamas’ phony statistics that try to show Israel is committing genocide and actually starving people. That is a flat out lie! They are counting deaths of their soldiers and as well as citizens Hamas used as human shields and unfortunately were caught in the fire. Israel gives warnings prior to any aggression to help prevent civilian casualties.
Anyone that has done any research at all, knows that both the United States and Israel have sent food, water and medical aid into Gaza. Hamas simply steals it and uses it for their own benefit. We (Israel and the US) keep sending it anyway, because we know we will be crucified by the international community if we don’t. We know it isn’t getting to the people that actually need it. But we have to try! The truth is, no one is starving in Gaza!!! That is obvious as we watch terrorists parade the hostages throughout the city streets each time some are released. The terrorists are clearly healthy and well fed.
The pastor claims Israel hates “Christians” and treats them poorly. That is also a flat-out lie. Anyone who has been to Israel, knows Israel loves Christians and actually treats them very well, due to needing them to support their economy. And as well they have a Constitution that gives freedom to everyone. They were devastated when the war in Gaza first started, because Christians were no longer coming and supporting their tourism.
The Pastor uses East Jerusalem to point out the hate of the Jew for Christians. But again, East Jerusalem has been an area of dispute, and there are a majority of “Palestinians” there – over 61% “Palestinian”. The anti-Semitic world are the ones that claim East Jerusalem is considered part of the “West Bank”, and under illegal occupation by Israel”. Yeah, no. Jerusalem belongs to Israel...every part of it. Israel won East Jerusalem back in the 6 Day War, but the population is a majority of “Palestinians” that live there. The UN and the international community refuse to acknowledge that win and they call the Jews "occupiers". Israel allows the “Palestinians” to be there, but they are the real occupiers and they are ruled by the Palestinian Authority, while mostly ignoring Israel. Israeli’s are not the “occupiers” even though the international community tries to say they are! So who do you think is really creating the hate through graffiti that this pastor claims? I dare say it isn’t the Jew. From patterned behavior, we see it is the “Palestinians” that incite violence, not Jews! And that fact has been demonstrated over and over and over. Pastor Isaac absolutely knows who lives there and who is responsible. He is lying...Ok, I will be gracious. He is trying to mislead us to his way of thinking.
This questionable pastor also states that evangelism is illegal in Israel. But the truth is, Israel totally allows freedom of religious expression, including evangelism. Both Christians and Arabs even serve in their government. I think the pastor obviously knew this statement was a flat out lie, because he backtracked!! It was clear he was carefully trying not to get caught and reveal his lie; and he didn't really answer when Tucker pressed. Watch carefully with discernment!
It is absolutely not illegal to preach the Gospel or evangelize in Israel! Israeli Declaration of Independence guarantees freedom of religion to everyone! There was a bill brought forward in 2023, that if passed, would have criminalized Christian proselytizing, with a punishment of one year of jail time and two years if it was directed at someone under age. To Prime Minister Netanyahu’s and his government's credit, the bill did not pass! The Prime Minister knows evangelical Christians are among Israel’s greatest supporters! Thank God for Bibi!
This pastor absolutely had to know that truth. If I know it, believe me, he KNOWS it! And again, his demeanor when Tucker questioned his comment further, totally revealed he knew the truth. This may have been the thing that made me most angry of all.
Then, as if Tucker hasn’t been despicable enough through this entire interview, allowing these lies to be told, toward the end of the interview he softly asks in mock concern (in my view):
“Who [what kind of nation] would send money to a government that would do something like that?”
This, in reference to what the “pastor” had just claimed in regard to Israel "committing genocide" of the Palestinian people. If I didn’t despise Tucker before, I think I do now….ok, ok...I know. I will work on that. I honestly don’t hate him. He saddens me, because I used to really like him. And I can still see some attributes that I used to admire. Not anymore. I see a despicable, desperate, confused man, trying to remain relevant. As another example, after he did an interview in Saudi Arabia with Piers Morgan, I couldn’t help but note he has even turned on people and revealed private conversations with people that I am sure were intended to be “off the record”. Tucker didn’t think twice about revealing what Piers Morgan allegedly said in private about Israel, after the interview they did together in Saudi Arabia. I am no Piers Morgan fan, but I found that Tucker did that appalling. Who does that??? I think there was a time, Tucker would not have repeated what someone told him in private. I don't think we know that Tucker anymore. But back to Gaza...
In 2022, there were approximately 1,100 Christians living in Gaza, down from 1,300 in 2013. Gaza was given by Israel to the “Palestinians” in 2005, so though we have statistics that show numbers in the 1990’s, those numbers are basically irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what has happened since the Palestinians were given the Strip. Oh. They voted in Hamas. I would wager a guess, that in 2023 at the beginning of this war, the number of Christians in Gaza was even down from the 2022 number of 1,100. The population there is 99% Sunni Muslim with 1% listed as Christian. That’s probably just for looks. I highly doubt there are that many there, now. So this is the area Tucker decides to do a show on about killing Christians??? Maybe google Dumisani Washington and see what he has to say...or David Freidman. This needs to be countered with truth.
Some how this pastor makes claims that there is "collective punishment" against Palestinians by Israel. This absolutely is not true. How so? They allow Arabs to live in their cities and to be elected to their government; they allowed work releases from Gazans to come daily into Israel to work. This is part of what got them in trouble on October 7th! Israel trusted too much!!!
Now back to how I started this missive at the very beginning; I want to point out that in this interview, at least, Tucker does little to mention any other persecution against Christians around the world...but somehow "attacks" against Christians by Israel matters??? He actually accuses the only nation that isn’t persecuting and attacking Christians!! Why does he choose to do a show about that, instead of obvious persecution around the world??? This is an entire dialogue based on a lie! Yes! I said it!
And when have we (including Tucker) ever cared what the international community thinks! Come on, Tucker! That only matters to you now???
We would do well to remember, that we get a lot of intelligence about our enemies from Israel. Even if someone does not support Israel for Biblical reasons, they absolutely need to support them for geo-political reasons! Israel is actually the warriors on the front lines of the war we are all living. There! I said it and I will keep saying it and exposing every lie I hear regardless from whose mouth it comes!
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Just a few interesting statistics:
2.142 Million Palestinians in Gaza
2,037,000 Palestinians live In Israel in a population of 9,256,314. This number includes Judea and Samaria and East Jerusalem.
2.9 Million Palestinians live in Judea and Samaria
There is no apartheid in Israel.